The newer works push the material and formal qualities of metal further, collapsing what look like architectonic quotations and modernist atelier icons, and at the same time ironically redefining the connotations of his material – from rigid hardness, strength and industrial alienation, to something more pliable, harmless and life-like. Matisse Blau and Barriere have more of a flow and momentum. In these sculptures I tried to capture something of the lightness of Henri Matisse’s paper cut-outs against the heaviness of the metal.’